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How severe is my PE? *Scheduled for bar-removal 29th of April* / ***New Post-Op pics***
Hi I'm from Sweden and I'm 17 years old, my English may not be perfect but I hope you understand 
Judging by the pictures, which surgery would you recommend and how severe is it?
I also wonder if my age affects the results? Does a 30 year old person get a worse result? If so, what is the best age to perform a surgery?
Will the results be much worse if I get the surgery when I'm 20? Because I'm not even sure I will get a surgery and there are long queues in Sweden at
the moment...
As you can see, the dip is quite oval, is it possible to operate anyway?
Are the results permanent or is the chest going to sink in again?
Are you able to bench press workout anymore?
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Side 2
New pictures below...
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Thanks in advance!
CT SCAN PICTURES BELOW
http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/8457/ctscan011ej.jpg
http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/2370/ctscan027ow.jpg
http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/5963/ctscan035pd.jpg
http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/7536/ctscan043lh.jpg
Really don't know what to say, but if you have something you would like to add please reply 
New pics:
Two new pics that shows that I have PC on one side or something 
I don't think that can be fixed 
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2007-03-13 New pics:
Well if everything goes as planned I will arrive in Berlin the 25th of March and be nussed the next day by ... (aahh you already know ^^)
Took some new pictures:
Left side
Right side
Upper PE
From above
Up front
Left again
Right again
Up front again
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jaxxn803
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I would say its mild. but I think u would have to have an xray of it to know the true severity of it. I'm not even sure what is considered to be
mild, moderate, or severe but if I was to guess I would say urs is mild.
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joppa
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If I workout hard, do you think it will look something like this?
Really don't like the "divider".
I guess this is impossible unless I get a surgery?
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Well you're definitely not too old to be having surgery..I'm 19 and I am hoping to have surgery done to correct my pe but I know it's going to be a
huge ordeal because of insurance and what not. There are people as old as 50 looking to have this surgery done. I know you are from Sweden and I am
not sure how your healthcare system works. They may cover it if you experience health problems ie: shortness of breath. There are many options for
you. Working out your chest and upper torso may help improve it ..muscle is never a bad thing..haha. There is also a V-bell which should be available
to you because it is only available in the EU. The V-bell is like a vaccuum for your chest and it seems to work well. There are a few people who have
used it and they have there pix posted. But it only works temporarily and you have to use the V-bell for a long period of time to see results.
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It seems to be a very mild case to me. Surgery doesn't seem necessary really. Cosmetically, you're fine.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Djugashvillain
It seems to be a very mild case to me. Surgery doesn't seem necessary really. Cosmetically, you're fine. |
Hmm I will soon have a CT scan... Well, I really want to have nice pecs, and when they grow larger, the dent is going to be more
noticeable.
Although, if I don't get the surgery I'm going to workout as hell to try to compensate.
And the thing is that the dent is 15 cm vertically (I'm about 190 cm) so it's a big deal to me.
Gah, "CT does involve exposure to radiation in the form of x-rays, but the benefit of an accurate diagnosis far outweighs the risk. The effective
radiation dose from this procedure is about 10 mSv, which is about the same as the average person receives from background radiation in three
years."
Starting to freak out about the CT-scan, really don't like the radiation.
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I would suggest more moderate than mild.
Consider posting better pics.
I can't say much about the CT scan and radiation (been there). Perhaps you can suggest/request that they only do your torso.
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Joppa
Your pictures appear that your PE is very mild. Mine looks like I got shot with a cannon ball, You look like you got ran into by a horse fly. Try
getting a gym membership and give it 12 months. Also, you may want to post another set of pictures, I'm not sure your first set gives a true
representation of your PE.
Randy
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It's hard to tell from those pics. Maybe you could post some from a greater distance. Looks mild from the close up shots though, nothing to get to
worked up about. You should look into the Vacuum bell as it is an option for you (lucky bastard )
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I'll maybe upload some pics tomorrow from a greater distance and from other angles... If my pecs were "connected" in some sort of way (there is no
connection at all) I would be happy with that, but now there is a gap between them, and it makes it worse.
Lets say I workout alot, the dent is going to be more noticeable as my pecs will grow but my dent will only look deeper.
And the thing is, that I'm going to feel more fulfilled, at least I think I'll do if I get the surgery...
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<~~~Quiet down
Joppa
You are correct pertaining to your pe and pec's. I know from experience. Because You and I both have deep holes, when our pec's grow the hole looks
deeper. That is just how it's gonna be for us. It's ok. just grow your entire body and dont ignore your legs, big legs are cool. Should you op for
surgery you will look fantastic. That is what my choice is and I'm a old fart.
Randy
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Yeah just doing the standard bodybuilding routines would make the dent appear deeper. You can look into other chest exercises that work the whole
sternum rather than just the pecs like pullovers and such. Certainly isn't gonna hurt to work your arms/legs or abs though.
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<~~~~~Good Guy
Pinkfloyd
Yah you are right. Possibly guys with PE as deep as mine will get little to no results from any form of pullover. I have practiced pullovers for 27
year. Across the bench with up to 140 d-bells set after set for years. With the bench using e-z curl bars with massive weight and high reps. I have
used pull over machines by nautilus, hammer-strength and Polaris and many others over the years and still dent dent dent. I encourage ever one with pe
to do pull overs and any form of this movement. I have not received pe improvement results from this movement and others may or may not. What EVERY
ONE who does pull overs will get from this movement will be STRONGER and better. I have developed a great physique, besides my friendly little dent,
but the discipline that I have developed has transferred into other areas of my life. Music, money, moto-cross and just tons of fun stuff. I hate my
pe but I thank God for it. What a messed up statement, am I a whack job? NO, with out the pe driving me to find a self-cure at the gym, I would have
never found how strict discipline puts you years ahead of all the competition in any arena. With me ugly nasty dented PE = Discipline. If I want to
become a great musician how do I do it, the same way I developed a great physique. Boy, that statement sounds arrogant and conceded. Don’t get me
wrong, I’m just as messed up and normal as you and who ever reads these words, but the discipline I have learned due to my pe has put me years ahead
in a couple of areas in my life. I was told on time by this real old dude, he we 60, that with EVERY adversity or disaster, if you look hard you will
find in that disaster an opportunity for a success. I did not understand him and called him all kinds of nasty names, but when I got 25 I remembered
what he said and now I know how right his statement is. So, pull over pull under or pull this……Just work on every part of your body and dent and
remember this post.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~SERMON OF THE DAY BY…….RANDY~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Joppa send an email and some pictures to Erik Gyllstedt, one of the doctors here in Sweden that performs the nuss procedure. Maybe he can give you the
answers you're looking for.
erik.gyllstedt@med.lu.se
Pectus free since 23th of may 2006
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joppa
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| Quote: | Originally posted by swedishdude
Joppa send an email and some pictures to Erik Gyllstedt, one of the doctors here in Sweden that performs the nuss procedure. Maybe he can give you the
answers you're looking for.
erik.gyllstedt@med.lu.se |
Hmm the thing is that I have been directed to Sahlgrenska, do you know if they have good surgeons there?
I'm afraid that I'm going to have a surgeon who is inexperienced with the nuss procedure, although the results may not vary THAT much?
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I just looked at your side pics. This is at least moderate. Should be of an operable severity.
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| Quote: | Ursprugligen inlagt av Djugashvillain
I just looked at your side pics. This is at least moderate. Should be of an operable severity. |
Yeah that
might be true, I think the dent is about 3,7 cm at the deepest point and about 15 cm vertically. With that said do you think the nuss procedure can
correct my dip?
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atleast moderate
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joppa
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I am wondering if the skeleton becomes harder if I benchpress workout? If that's the case maybe I should stop?
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Joppa
Bone flexability is usually a function of age. The older the more ridgid the bone and costalcartlege becomes. No, I dont think you need to stop
lifting weights.
Randy
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| Quote: | | Yeah that might be true, I think the dent is about 3,7 cm at the deepest point and about 15 cm vertically.
With that said do you think the nuss procedure can correct my dip? |
Yes.
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I'll have en examination in May I was wondering if anyone knows when they use
two bars? Is it when the depression is very long?
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Joppa
contact chucknorris here in the forum, he just had 2 Nuss bars installed.
Randy
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| Quote: | Ursprugligen inlagt av Randy
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contact chucknorris here in the forum, he just had 2 Nuss bars installed.
Randy |
I have U2U him. I found this link.
"Taller patients may receive two bars, and hence, four incisions." Well I'm 190 cm maybe I'll get two bars. Going to ask the doctor that.
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WTF is 190CM? I live in USA, and Im 6'1'' and 230lbs of solid steel muscle!!
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