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Hi Davy,
sounds great that you are back in business, I'm still here at the hospital but everything is under control. Not much pain at all, good results from
the tests, hitting 3700 now on the "coach", I shouldn't say too much but it feels like I'm cruising right now. Looking forward to a white Christmas in
Sweden, can hopefully leave this place on Wednesday morning. It's been a strange but fulfilling journey so far, a new guy (dxb form the forum) arrived
yesterday and he wasn't impressed by the food, hehe..The good thing with this place is the quality of the doctors, the friendly nurses (at least some
of them) and the fact that you hang out with people with similar background, just comparing stories is a part of the healing process as well I think.
Your buddy from Israel left this morning, he wasn't 100% satisfied with his result but I thought it looked great, hope he can get over it soon, he
mentioned that you had a perfect result, he was really impressed. Glad for you, it gave me a lot of comfort that you stopped by my room before the
surgery. I've been trying to do the same for people , it really shows how nervous they sometimes are. I had a young German guy next to me for a couple
of days and he was very tense, tried to talk to him and it looks like his surgery went great, just some pain as we all face.
Take it easy buddy!
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Quote: Originally posted by villa  | | Hey Davy you are amazing, back to work already! I am happy for you that you love your new chest. Can't wait to hear more, keep us posted when you can!
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Work keeps my mind off of things. It is a bit stressful but it is definitely the best thing for me. Just to keep plugging along. I am still in a fair
amount of pain and I think only time will heal that.
Thanks for the nice words.
Davy
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Haha no prob Randy no offense taken. Im sure once I get my ribs bashed in it will be a diff story.
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Ok, get your test and get to Schaar, he will fix The Colombani mess.
well, just taking one day at a time and Praying our Great Country "Gets Back On It's Feet"
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Update Day 22
Hello all.
Well I am at home trying so hard to get better.
I was feeling great on Monday. Therefore Monday night I did a fair amount of cardio. This was a big mistake. Tuesday was a nightmare. Pain all day.
Found it hard to get good breaths. Also lots of pain. I needed to get stuff done for Christmas and a friend was driving me around a bit. Real brutal
day, but I survived.
Today I was doing much better and then I started to get a real bad sore stomach. Tons of stomach pain. Dont know if it is from the meds or
what????????? Very frustrating. Day 22 and I am still having a rough go of it.
Now I am afraid to take medication cuz I think it will hurt my belly. 
If I do not take it the pain will comeback I am sure.
Currently in this position pain is just minimal, or I am just getting so used to living with it. Stomach just a little sore currently. Just want to
make it through Christmas in one piece so I can come back home and take it easy.
I am usually a bit of a neat freak. Right now my apartment is a bit of a disaster..............O well. Screw it. I dont care. 
One thing I have also noticed is that my chest seems to be changing. My right side where my lower ribs are appears to be sinking in some and also my
left pec appears to go in a bit. Everything is not even. Will keep my eyes open to see how it looks as time goes on.
For now just trying to make it to tomorrow.
Davy
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Davy,
Do you have a fever with your stomach ache? I hope that all your pain - stomach and post-surgical - gets better soon. You're a trooper for braving a
day of shopping when you feel so miserable! And try not to let the messy house get to you. I'm a neat freak I guess too, so I know how it is. But
it'll all get cleaned up eventually - for now just take it easy and rest so you can get better.
As for the changes you're starting to notice in your chest, I wonder if you're swollen in parts still from the surgery? Maybe that could be playing a
role in the changes as the swelling begins to subside? I'm not sure since I haven't had surgery, so I'm hoping the more experienced ones here can
give you better thoughts on that.
Keep us posted on how you're doing and hang in there.
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Davy
The pain is a constant, just cant escape it immediately. Over time you will beat that pain punk into obliteration. Keep finding your way with the
med's, cardio, work and rest. Remember to eat all you can and as often as possible.
The chest changing for us older guys seems to me slightly more common, yet not to all older adults. My chest changed very little for the first several
months. I noticed slight regression about 16 months along with a depression on my left side compounded with a left rib flare. Just something that
Schaars gonna smash away at bar removal. I would think one more good go with Schaar and my chest will be as close to what I would think would be
perfect. Im a perfectionist, yet I know 90% in many things in life would be considered perfection. That is fine with me, 90% is perfection.
It's a rough go Davy, yet you are tough minded carrying a good attitude. So your prognosis is all good.
Randy
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Here is some of what I wrote in my journal on Day 22 post surgery:
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Yesterday I was having quite a good today. I was generally up and about and the pain was not too uncomfortable. I was feeling quite happy about
everything. I went to bed at about midnight. I had settled in quite comfortably into the whole sleeping on my back routine. At 2am I had a very rude
and painful awakening, one that I could not have anticipated. I awoke to a severe stabbing pain in my lower right stomach. If I remained completely
still it seemed okay, but if I moved at all, or if I tried to inhale even slightly deeply it was agony! I was not expecting a pain in my stomach! Pain
in my chest or my sides I can understand. But in my stomach?
It really was excruciating and I have never experienced stomach pain this bad before. I started to wonder what ti was – appendix (please God, no, not
now!), some stomach reaction to the Ibuprofen, or maybe something to do with the pleural effusion. Anyway, at one stage at about 6am (I had not slept)
it got so bad I considered a trip to the emergency room. I tried to calm myself and managed to drift off to sleep until 8am. When I awoke at 8am, I
feel a very strange sensation – my breathing seemed very labored, very shallow. This, coupled with the very bad abdominal pain, made me panic. I felt
completely breathless and my heart was racing at 120bpm. I took myself to the hospital immediately.
My GP said that the fluid had increased again and that he wanted me to see a pulmonary surgeon/specialist right away. I was send off to the pulmonary
centre and saw the guy that did my pre-Berlin lung function tests. He remembered me and asked how the operation went. He looked at the x-rays and
seemed impressed. He remarked that I had a lot more lung capacity and that my heart was no longer squashed against my spine. Anyway, we checked for a
burst appendix. Nada. He said that I had been taking way too much Ibuprofen and that I should stop it immediately and replace it with something else.
He prescribed 90mg Arcoxia, 2 times per day.
He also said that I have about 500ml of fluid on both sides and that, combined with my overzealous consumption of Ibuprofen, may have led to by
stomach problems. He said that I needed to be drained!! So, I have scheduled my third pleural puncture for this coming Saturday. I told him that my
first puncture on May 20th was pain free, but my second on May 28th was like death. He took a look at the wounds on my back and did mention that they
still looked rather tender and that the second puncture must have been done quite roughly. He promised to give me extra local anaesthetic for the
procedure and assured me that it would not hurt. This guy is an expert at the puncture, so I feel good about that. He also mentioned that he would not
be surprised after this puncture if I did not need another one in about two weeks or so. He said we will have to keep a close eye on it but hopefully
after this third puncture, the remaining effusions will resolve on their own.
The stomach pain has not gone away, which still troubles me. Every time I take a breath in, I get a stabbing feelin in my lower right abdomen.
Hopefully, this will go away soon. It is very disconcerting having this on top of everything else that is going on. Courage and Faith!
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I never found out what the stomach thing was but it went away. If you are taking ibuprofen you might want to switch to Arcoxia for a few days. Don't
take more than 2x90mg and don't take it for more than a few days.
The pain will go away but it is very disconcerting, isn't it?
Courage and Faith.
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Hi Davy,
I understand your frustration, I was really good 4-5 days ago but have had a stabbing pain on the left side since then, feels like somebody is
stabbing me and twisting the knife at the same time, Dr. Schaar said that it must be that the bars are pushing some nerves, I'm ok with all the other
pain but this one is not good at all, not sure what to do, the only thing I can do is to move my left arm in different position and hope the pain goes
away for a while. Have you guys felt anything like this?
I can hear the bars are clicking on each side, the right side is ok pain wise but, as I said, the left side is brutal. I guess we have to fight each
day and hope for the best. Hope you feel better soon!
Mery Christmas
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Davy and CharlieB
The pain is one Tough Ride. It seems to decrease in time periods of weeks. Like every 2-3 weeks you can notice a decrease in the over all pain. There
is nothing directly you can do to eliminate this massive pain. Take your pain med's according to your pain. this helps. What I found to help my pain
whither it be a broke leg or a Nuss bar or whatever, would be to engage my mind into work, reading, hobbies. Any heavy concentration by the mind for
long periods seemed to buy me a bit of relief. Although the pain was the same, I was not focusing on the pain but on my activity.
Just passing on what worked for me, possibly work for others.
Merry Chriatmas to you CharlieB and Everyone.
Randy
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Day 25 Update
Hey everyone!
Once again thanks to you all for so much support. Without you guys, this would be so much harder. At times I feel it is hard to go on and then I think
about the message boards or a fluffy cloud or something nice and I get through the tough time......
Well I wish I had positive things to report to you guys. However that is not the case. Things are not going well at all.
Christmas eve I was feeling a bit better. I thought I would try to drive to my sisters. I took pain meds before to make sure I was not in much pain. I
went to the mall for a bit and then picked up my Mom and made it to my sisters fine. That night was fine. I slept some. My sister and brother in law
had a recliner for me. I drove home that night in pain but was actually ok.
Christmas morning was not good. I was in so much pain it was crazy. Perhaps the worst since I was back home. I was suppose to go to my Moms later that
day but felt I might have to cancel. Christmas eve night after I got home and went to sleep and Christmas morning was incredibly painful.
Late Christmas day around 4 I decided to go to my Moms. I had a friend give me a ride. Once I got there I actually was not so bad. I survived the
night and had my brother in law give me a ride home.
Last night sleeping was brutal and this morning was quite painful again. I took like a 2 hour bath and just soaked in hot water. Currently after that
I am feeling way way better. That bath thing is really helping me tons.
I have other problems as well. When I got back from Germany I was able to eat more then I can now. I weighed 149.8 lbs and had a small appetite. Now I
can barely eat at all. I am losing weight daily.
I just weighed myself. I am down to 142.8 lbs.
I am doing horrible with the coach and have only done a few very minor small walks lately.
I truly feel like I am sliding down hill. I am getting muscle atrophe or whatever it is called.
Wow this is pushing me to my limits. My head is actually pretty sound right now. Mentally I am doing ok. Physically I am really starting to rot and
fester.
Anyways there is a blatant honest update for you guys. I know I will beat this flipping thing but man o man, this is a harsh battle.
I feel there is little fight in me. One thing, currently as I type this I actually have fairly small pain. Thank you Mr pain for giving me a bit of a
break. Like I said that bath really helped.
Take care all.
Davy
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Davy,
I think I know what is your problem. Simply, you wanted to do too many things too fast. Yeap, thats right. When Randy reported on your behalf that two
days after returning from Germany you are back at work I thought that you eather completely recovered or you are nuts!
Can you relax for few days without going somewhere or doing something?
I am 10 weeks after my surgery but I still have problems sitting behind the desk for longer than an hour.
When I came back from Germany I was just eating, reading books, relaxing, eating some more and trying to sleep
I think that the best cure for you right now is to take it slowly. Don't do anything for few days.
I want you to report back in few days
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Update, Day 32
Hey everyone.
Happy New Year to all of you!!!
Well it is day 32 for me now.
I feel like I am almost in as much pain as when I got home. Maybe a tiny bit less. The other day at least I was able to do some stretching and was
able to move my arms above my head and able to do some things I was not able to do before.
Very frustrating is the air I am able to breathe. I feel my breathing has not improved at all. I am only able to get 2000 on the coach now and 1500 is
a much more comfortable level. That is very sad. Shouldn't I be doing way better then that???
My weight yesterday was 141.2 lbs. The lowest I have hit. I don't think I will lose much more, but boy o boy do I have work to do soon.
Very frustrated here but still continuing to stay positive.
Will get some pictures up for you guys soon like I have said a few times.
It is frustrating cuz I want to be living life with my new chest and enjoying everyday that goes by.
However at the current time, I feel like I am just hoping more time will go by so I can feel less pain.
I am not really enjoying life at the current time. However I am trying to make the best of it!!!
Like I said trying to stay positive. Whenever times get a bit tuff.
I take off my shirt and look in the mirror and same dang you sexy thing. Haha
At least I am dent freeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
Davy
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That actually was more or less the only thing I could do also when I was feeling miserable and it kind of helps a bit. 
Work the hell out of the coach. Are you using the right technique?
I've tried a lot of different ways and this is my favourite. I sit down and breath a few deep breaths and when I'm ready to exhale I bend forward to
really squeeze out as much air as possible. Then I inhale by using my stomach first while raising my upper body and when it's upright I try to expand
my chest as much as possible to let the air fill the lungs completely. Then I try to hold my breath as long as possible to really force the lungs to
expand.
Keep on fighting - it will be better.
Take care!
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Day 39 Update!!!
Hey everyone.
Here is my day 39 update.
Still incredibly frustrating.
The last 3 days or so the pain is about a 9 out of 10. At this exact moment it is much less due to recently taking my meds. At night when I take the
meds I am still in tons of pain. After I wake up and move around it gets better.
I still cant comprehend how slow my recovery is going.
I have not went to the gym yet. I took my first shower the other day. I was just taking baths. I think the shower caused my pain to be super bad. I
think just reaching my arms up to wash my hair and doing a few new manouvers sent my pain way higher. SO SO frustrating.
I just weighed myself. I have hit a fresh low and continue to slowly shed more lbs. Now I am down to 138.4 lbs. This is incredibly frustrating. I have
now lost about 20lbs.
Just taking it day by day. So far today the pain seems like it is less so it looks like, (knock on wood) I am going to have a better day!
Trying to stay focused and positive but the stranglehold these bars have on me is making it very difficult.
Will update again soon and I will get pics up soon as well.
My good friend Trevor who is going to take the pics hurt his back fairly bad. Not sure what he did, but it is bad. Maybe sleeping funny or working at
his desk.
We joke around that we should go out for dinner!!!! We say that he can just use a cane or a walker that the elderly use and I can have his wife push
me around in a wheelchair!!!
Davy
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Just put up with the pain, your mental strength will win the pain battle. Unfortunately this is no quick victory, it will go on for months. Once you
have the pain at a constant level of 6 or so, then it's time to give it hell. Dont start yet, its to soon. You can walk daily, do yoga movements for
flexibility, be careful! Keep testing your limitation and as time passes re-test them for progress. At 90 days you should be at a level of 6 on the
pain scale, this is sufficient to go give it Hell.
Oh yah, if you want the weight to reverse and go in your direction, you have to eat by the clock! If you dont, you will not gain. There is no
compromise!
Randy
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I am 8 months post surgery. I felt like you at the beginning. I was in a hurry to get off the meds. Bad idea. I still take a light opiod and
something for nerve pain. They have no negative effect on me whatsoever. They allow me to live a normal life and work out hard at the gym. My
bloodwork is perfect and I am the healthiest I have ever been.
It's too early for you to do weights. Wait until at least 2 to 3 months post surgery. Do cardio for now and concentrate on upping your calorie
intake.
What meds are you taking?
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| Quote: Originally posted by Pectus Dude | I am 8 months post surgery. I felt like you at the beginning. I was in a hurry to get off the meds. Bad idea. I still take a light opiod and
something for nerve pain. They have no negative effect on me whatsoever. They allow me to live a normal life and work out hard at the gym. My
bloodwork is perfect and I am the healthiest I have ever been.
It's too early for you to do weights. Wait until at least 2 to 3 months post surgery. Do cardio for now and concentrate on upping your calorie
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Troy
You got the routine under you thumb these day, I knew it would come, each one must find there own way. You made it!!
Now on to the next leg of recovery............ Have Fun!!
Randy
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Day 53 Update
Hey everyone.
Have done quite a few posts in pe forum describing recent events so will keep it short here.
Today is day 53 and pain was getting better for awhile but has now comeback in a big way.
I also have a rib protruding. It is the rib that is located where my right nipple is. It appears to be getting worse everyday. It is very frustrating
cuz it makes me look funny. I went into this wanting a great result and now I dont think I look that good. However I am not losing hope as I weigh
137.6lbs. I was 157lbs before surgery. If I gain 30lbs maybe no one will even be able to notice that rib??? Right now I have no pecs. They are
hybrinating until I go to the gym again.
Will post pics hopefully later today.
Davy
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Pics Finally
I dont know how good you will think these pics are. The problem is that I have lost 20lbs since surgery so I dont still dont look that good. However
after I gain the weight back as long as my rib I am having problems with gets under control, I think I will look much better then before.
Hope this works. First link to before nuss pics!
http://img27.imageshack.us/g/nuss1260nh8.jpg/
Here is the link to after nuss pics!
http://img406.imageshack.us/g/img0126wl.jpg/
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I think your post op pics look good. Definitely a big improvement from before. You're right, there are a few little lumps and bumps and a bit of the
overcorrected look many of us Helios graduates seem to have. But once you can can to the gym and start putting on some muscle, I think it will help a
lot to even out the little bumps..at least I think it did for me. And then you can get whatever else needs to be done fixed a bar removal. But I
think for this stage its great.
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| Quote: Originally posted by edgey | | I think your post op pics look good. Definitely a big improvement from before. You're right, there are a few little lumps and bumps and a bit of the
overcorrected look many of us Helios graduates seem to have. But once you can can to the gym and start putting on some muscle, I think it will help a
lot to even out the little bumps..at least I think it did for me. And then you can get whatever else needs to be done fixed a bar removal. But I
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Thanks Edgey.
Like I said in a previous post, pictures dont always do justice. When I look at these pics online, honestly I dont feel I look that good.
However I think with weight I will look a million times better then before nuss. Right now I currently have 4 problems. I have 2 dips that take place
underneath each nipple, a little more noticeable on my right side. This is because it is a bigger dip here as well as it is underneath where the bone
sticks out on the rib just above. The other problem is I have a flared rib on my left side that is visible. The final problem and the biggest of my
concern is that rib that is sticking out at nipple level on my right side. It is very bad. I took the pictures you see at least 2 weeks ago. The rib
has been getting worse and worse. Fix that rib and I can live with the rib flare and all other dips divots and bumps. I might get a friend to take a
few more pics of it tonight.
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No, right now you have one problem. Your mental attitude. Listen to me, okay. I was in exactly the same position as you. I was worried about this
lump and that, my falred ribs, my wated pec, blah, blah. It took me so long and many comments from my friends here and my partner to realize
something very important. No amount of worrying about your protursions, your funky sticking out rib is going to make it better. It will just get you
down. Why don't you just cut a long story short and say to yourself - "I no longer have pectus excavatum. I am thankful beyond imagination for that
gift. I look a trillion times better than I did AND as time goes on I will get stronger, be able to work out, put on weight AND look even better than
I do now. My new muscles are likely to cover most if not all of the preceived imperfections and those that are not covered by muscle will be
corrected later"
Do what I did. Stop fretting and worrying about things and get on with the business of recovery. You need all of your mental strength for that so
don't waste it on negativity.
I was you. I am now so much happier. Accept what is and make it better!
EDIT: Okay, I have just see the photos you uploaded to imageshack. Let me tell you something. The protrusion you are talking about is going to
disappear once you get some muscle back on your pec area. Trust me. After 6 months of working out, you won't see a thing. Another 6 months of
building after that and your chest will look fantastic. At the moment you are skin and bone. So what can you expect to be jutting out? Bone, of
course. Trust me. You are golden. And as a bonus you have no rib flare that I can see. Read these words - After 12 months of solid working out and
proper diet your chest will be perfect!
Now, get to work on your recovery. Drop the negative attitude and soldier on towards your goal. I am trying my best to do the same. It's not that
easy sometimes but we really have no other choice.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Pectus Dude |
No, right now you have one problem. Your mental attitude. Listen to me, okay. I was in exactly the same position as you. I was worried about this
lump and that, my falred ribs, my wated pec, blah, blah. It took me so long and many comments from my friends here and my partner to realize
something very important. No amount of worrying about your protursions, your funky sticking out rib is going to make it better. It will just get you
down. Why don't you just cut a long story short and say to yourself - "I no longer have pectus excavatum. I am thankful beyond imagination for that
gift. I look a trillion times better than I did AND as time goes on I will get stronger, be able to work out, put on weight AND look even better than
I do now. My new muscles are likely to cover most if not all of the preceived imperfections and those that are not covered by muscle will be
corrected later"
Do what I did. Stop fretting and worrying about things and get on with the business of recovery. You need all of your mental strength for that so
don't waste it on negativity.
I was you. I am now so much happier. Accept what is and make it better!
EDIT: Okay, I have just see the photos you uploaded to imageshack. Let me tell you something. The protrusion you are talking about is going to
disappear once you get some muscle back on your pec area. Trust me. After 6 months of working out, you won't see a thing. Another 6 months of
building after that and your chest will look fantastic. At the moment you are skin and bone. So what can you expect to be jutting out? Bone, of
course. Trust me. You are golden. And as a bonus you have no rib flare that I can see. Read these words - After 12 months of solid working out and
proper diet your chest will be perfect!
Now, get to work on your recovery. Drop the negative attitude and soldier on towards your goal. I am trying my best to do the same. It's not that
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Hello Troy.
I understand that you are trying to help me. However I think you are mistaken in regards to my attitude. I have a very good attitude and will continue
to do so. However I look reality straight in the eye.
For example look at the line I wrote a few posts ago to Edgeys response.
"However I think with weight I will look a million times better then before nuss. "
That was me who said that.
When it comes to this type of stuff I need to look it right in the eye. To push it aside or not see anything and say everything is going to be ok does
not work for me.
I have a flared rib just like you. It is very noticeable. I have 2 dips that are below my nipples. I dont like them but they are the least of my
concerns. Once I gain 20 or 30lbs which I WILL, things will look much different. Once I gain the weight I can then have a good look and see rate
myself then.
Right now at the current time I have a much different problem. That rib that is sticking out has gotten worse since these pics. I cannot ignore that,
and I think it would be real bad if I did. I need to face the facts. I just woke up a few hours ago. I was in a ton of pain again last night even with
meds. If I touch my chest at almost any spot it is extremely tender and sore.
So currently I need to figure out what is going on? I wish I could see Scharr so I could get the facts.
Hey if all of a sudden everything stopped moving and the rib settled where it is and the pain went down, then great. Hit the gym slowly and work it
day by day, lb by lb.
However right now everything is still extremely sore and moving around quite a bit.
I would be nuts to go to the gym now. I find it real hard to gain weight without working out. This is just my reality.
I am going to see a few drs asap to see if they can give me an idea of what they think. These Drs are going to know much less then Scharr.
In the meantime I will keep a positive attitude, however it will be realistic. I hope that everything calms down, gets much more stable and I can
slowly get in the gym. It might take me at least 2 years to gain 30lbs. I am 39 years old and single. I am tired of being single. I want to work out
now. I need to live life asap. However I understand that I need to be patient.
I know you mean well, I just want you to understand how I think, and then I think you will realize that I have a great attitude. Positive but
realistic.
Most people when they look at me would probably want to barf cuz I have bones protruding and divots etc............. I feel like I am close to being
anorexic.
However that really does not bother me. I know I will look way way way way way different once I gain 30lbs. I just want to get it started now. Get my
a$$ in the gym. However all I can do is try to stay positive. Go to Docs to get checked out. Continue with many walks and try as hard as I can to eat.
I feel like my eating habbits have been getting better, however I am still at a low in my weight. Frustrating!
Davy
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Randy
Contibuting Member
Posts: 3540
Registered: 12-22-2005
Location: St. Louis MO
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Mood: Always Fun & Positive
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Davy
Here's my opinion of your pix. Your results are absolute PERFECTION!! That little bitty tiny small grain of sand bump is so small I had to look at
your picture with a microscope to even see it. Dont give it one more ounce of mental energy!!!!!!!!!!!!! LISTEN TO ME, I'M OLD, SO YOU HAVE TO
LISTEN.
That little grain of sand sitting on your chest is nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing.......... <~~~ you get that!!!
Your number one goal now is simple pain management and how to eat super lean foods and increase daily calories. It's that simple.
Dont think or believe for 1 second that you need to feel good or pain free to go to the gym. Going to the gym now is not for gaining muscle now, it is
to develop the habit and desire for weeks later. To gain knowledge that you dont have today. To motivate your mind that not going to the gym will not
give you.
You think I write this stuff because I make it up?? NO NO NO NO I live my life this way and I believe you know this to be true. Everything 100% no
matter how you feel.
So no longer look at that piece of dust on your peck or what ever that little small tiny little thing is........ your results are perfection, much
better than my results. ok enough of my truthful lecture.
Talk soon.....Im le;aving for the gym now!!! Gonna lift a Mac-Truck!!
randy
well, just taking one day at a time and Praying our Great Country "Gets Back On It's Feet"
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